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Therenody wrote:Um, no offense but have you been keeping up with what is going on with Holy Paladins? They have been nerfed to the point of being a liability in raids bause they are over represented in 5vs5 arena. Yes I've been keeping up, in ft I have even dropped my holy gear and went Retribution just bause of the ft that I dont feel spial anymore. This has nothing to do with nerfs or buffs, I just got bored with paladin healing as it stands. I forgot to mention though that I agree with the points made above. What I was trying to say though is that youan't balae a game without keeping in mind the harore aspts (thatoerns raids too). In my understanding Arena is the ultimate form of PvP, itombines skill and teamwork. And in order to keep it that way there should be balae, bause if there isn't any balae, based on Arena, then somelassesouldn'tompete in PvP anymore. And I'm sure the developers at Blizzard know what they are doing, and won't see to it that alassan'tompete in either PvE or PvP On a side note: What do you mean by liability? As far as I see most guilds still run with Holy Paladins. ,Zignaestos
I don't have alue what to think of that. He does make a lot of sense, and reading his makes me want to go emodin. But some randomounter arguments here also make some sense.
I have nothing to add to the Holy debate, but I'd just like to reply to this:
Galkaman wrote:
Zignaestos wrote:Galkaman wrote:
I'm not making anyalls on wotlk pally healing until I see a t7 raid, and sie I dont have a beta key I probably wont see one for a month or more. I think it is important to keep persptive. Druids stk and roll lifebloom, haveluh heals in a pih. Priests spamoH and if they are good they use other spells. Shamans havehain heal and aluh heal and lay totems down every 2 minutes. Paladins spam tanks, and keep their big heal ready for spike damage. On the surfe we are all pretty simple in theory, but then again in theory Muru strat is simple andommunism works. I push druids and shamans on heal meters on trash and boss fights where Ian. On fights like Twins where I am given a simple job "keep warlk tank alive" I keep him alive and I might not be tops on the meters but I do the assigned job and we win phat lewtz. Same with Felmyst he says that Paladins get beaten by Spriests, I've seen that happen with other paladins but not me. Also important to note that during the transition to air phase when aggro with the skellies is trky I am the guy handing outluh heals that keep people alive when shamans and other healersant afford to get aggro while Paladin tank does his thing. To say that we have been marginalized in T is just the statement of someone with a grass is greener mentality who is not happy and looking for reasons to bih. Pah 2.4 with the spiritinthanges really helped Druids and Priests but not at the expense of pally healing. It is also fair to say that there is a lot of raid healing in SWP so itan seem like we aren't owning the meters like we did in Hyjal or BT but oe again its not thease, but rather a person infatuation with meters that is skewing their view of how things are. Would a third keybind to use on grid really add that mh of ahallenge, not really. Would 100% mana return off spelrits when I have 40%+ holy lightrit allow me to bomb heal a little more instead of use skill to top mana bars, probably. I think judgements effting heals will be a ne start and oe again help get ret pallies in the raid as well. shrug
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